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I’ve been asked about the Crosman 1377, 1322, and the Crosman 2289 lever pivot pin  Some of in uninformed call it a pump pin.

 

I need to make this especially clear, for the owners of the Crosman Classic phase 1 and phase 2.

 

The Crosman lever pivot pin must be the sug fitting stock pin or a  snug fitting roll pin if not you will damage your prize airgun.

 

The idea of the roll pin serves 2 uses

1. to hold the gun together
2. as a pivot point for the pump arm (lever)

 

The reason behind the roll pin is to keep the movement both rotation as well as forward, backward, up and down from taking place on the pump tube.

 

When the pivot pin moves it creates lateral forces on the pump tube eventually making the round pin hole oblong rendering the pump tube useless.

 

The only movment you want is on the pump lever rotating on the lever pin, there should be no movment on the tube.

 

Granted the roll pin is unsightly and a pain in the butt, but it gives as close as you can get to even secure pressure and prevents all movement on the tube saving the gun from unwanted damage.

 

Yes this is less then perfect but your gun will last a long time.

 

Our advise on the phase 1 and phase 2 is to keep the stock lever pivot pin if it has a tight fit, but, if you replace the stock lever pivot pin because of wear or loss you should dump the after market lever pivot pin as they allow movement between the pin and tube. Install the ever dreaded roll pin giving you a tight movement free pin; your beloved old Crosman will appreciate it. 

 

If you must have an after market lever pivot pin be certain there is a snug fit between the pin and the pump tube then keep the pin well lubricated between the linkage and pin.  

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I’ve been seeing a lot about Benjamin discovery and marauder modification

And for the most part like what I see.

 

But What I’m confused about is when it’s posted in a the post “I AM THE FIRST”

You know what I’m talking about the prima donna’s that think there better then everyone else by copying a pre-made item slapping a hole or 2 in a new location and calling it there own, brag about what they copied then order parts from the manufacture to complete the patent infringed creation and calling it there own,, this is a JOKE.

 

Crosman seems to be the target of a few patent infringed creations my guess is the only reason they let it go is because of there good nature and extreme support of the hobby.

 

I can’t remember where I read it but somewhere someone was making an exact copy of Crosmans sear spring adjuster and  in the add it was posted (this is the same exact same spring crosman uses) What a JOKE and 1 hell of a mode,, we call this the exact copy mod or better termed,,, what a joke..

 

Some custom builders get on the phone and order parts from manufactures then mix and match stock parts sometimes to custom made parts and sometimes not but the end result is a custom build airgun that most of the time exceeds the performance of many stock factory builds…

 

 

Bootleg parts Part 2

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Breech builders and those that copy them

 

Even I am guilty of this, which is why you don’t see a price on our webpage for the 5.5 or the 11.2 there a close copy of the crooked barn & RJ Machine breech and we dont sell them.

 

 OK,, I know we make ours out of brass crooked barn is aluminum and RJ Machine is steel but a copy is still a copy.

 

We have too much respect for the creativity of others and ourselves to copy the breech make it out of brass and call it our own and put a price on it we dont do that.

 

 

The Riser Breech was a creation of RJ Machine the Crosman forum and it members, weeks passed with hot discussion  on the New Crosman Forum about a Riser Breech and after weeks hmm months,,,, RJ Machine pulled through and supplied a breech that was in demand,

 
Now you can find copy’s being made without regard or credit to the designer. But we all know where the breech and the design came from.

 

 

Once a part is made no mater what it is be it a breech or a complete gun it is nothing to take it to a machinist and say make me 50 of these, out come the calipers and pencil crunch some numbers into the keyboard a week later you got parts.

 

 I’ve seen this done with complete airguns as-well you see them listed as Custom Home Made airguns but cut for cut there the same as the gun that was painstakingly measured and used to copy,  I  like to call these Custom Home Made Copy’s of someone else’s work.

 

A good example of this is the crosman steel breech crosman sells them for $29.00 http://www.crosman.com/airguns/accessories/custom/1377SBPK

A copy of the very same breech (not Crosman) sell for $50.00 to $100.00 sometimes more.

 

You see the samething with the RJ Machine Riser Breech. It sells for $90.00 http://www.rjmachineshop.com/18420.html

And Copy of RJ Machine Riser Breech sells for $110.00 and more.

 

 

The Crooked barn breech is one of my favorite breeches; http://www.crookedbarn.com/
Not necessarily the Crooked barn breech but the shape, it’s the hexagon I like so much, Crooked barn make there breechs out of aluminum, not necessarily the best choice, none the less our 5.5 looks like the Crooked barn breech and looks like it’s a copy therefore not appropriate to sell as our own, we could grind on it a bit but it would still look like the CB breech,

 

admitted there are only a few basic shapes on the shelf and if your going to make breeches its easy to grab a piece of material off the shelf and cut away with the end result a look alike, shorter longer taller thinner a copy is a copy.

 

Crooked barn breeches are machined on the top ours are not, I like the whole look, still

The 5.5 looks like a copy, small changes to a product doesn’t mean it’s not a copy.

 

If you look around you will see others copying the CB Breech and others with small changes then call it there own, again small changes to a product doesn’t mean it’s not a copy.

 

I like this Attorney he explains it well see paragraph 3 and 4

http://copylaw.com/new_articles/copy_myths.html

Even though he is talking about copyright the correlation between copyright and ones creations relate, its called derivative work.

Or Offshoot, Unoriginal, Imitative. COPY

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Here we go again I have had the pleasure of hearing it again from another non creative blood sucking leach and I quote

 

” I think if someone comes out with a similar item made from different material, or a better price. That's not a copy it's an adaptation. Filling a void with a product is a service to everyone that wants one even if it is a copy.” “Charles Mellon”

 

This shows why patent laws are need.

 

What this non thinker uncreative leach is saying,

 

Someone can do all the research and development build a finished product of the finest material then he the (uncreative leach) can come in and make it with different material and it’s not a copy it's an adaptation filling a void.

 

This is an attempt at making himself feel good about not having the ability to create and making it OK in his own mind to COPY
Updated Friday May 28th 2010

 

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Its late Ill try to get to more  of, on an earlier note but at a later date

 

 

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 In the same price range.

        I was thinking the Benjamin Marauder may be a nice rife to own, but being penny-wise as I am I started looking around for air rifles in the same price range, I was surprised, give or take $50.00 to $100.00 there are a few, all worth there weight.
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Benjamin Discovery 379.00 with pump

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Sumatra 2500 499.00
Sumatra 2500 carbine 499.00
Sumatra 2500 500cc Reservoir 499.00


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Career III 300 & 707 $476.00 $549.00

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Evanix Hunting Master $599.00


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Sam Yang Big Bore 909S $549.90


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Webley Raider $525.00


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And the newest to the line Benjamin Marauder projected $499.00



O-- lets not forget
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Airforce Condor starting at 525.00


The Condor shoots well and is OK for a single shot but easy to forget.

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The Webley Raider is definitely on my list, I have shot the Raider and its a fine rifle, I do like American made, Soo,,, it's got to be a tossup as to which gun I should go for, the Benjamin Marauder or the Webley Raider? The only way I have to judge the Benjamin Marauder is by looks, the Benjamin Marauder has not yet been released, but to go just on looks and pricing the Webley Raider wins hands down.

Only time will tell and to be honest, I’m not that keyed up about the Benjamin Marauder the more I look at it the more I see another plain Jain....

 

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Ok from my understanding the Benjamin Marauder is American made, not sure about the barrel but Crosman is fully capable of producing a match grade barrel so it is of no consequence if it’s Crosman or another barrel maker I’m sure the quality will be A1.

 The trigger is an upgrade from the Crosman Discovery plastic trigger to a fully adjustable match grade metal trigger, Crosman is definitely going in the right direction in the trigger department.

 I do have more questions on the 10 pellet clip (more on this as I find out more)

Its claimed to be 1100fps for the 177 and 1000fps for the 22 cal with only 2000 pounds fill pressure, you can bet it will be close to that if not right on the money, the question is,, is it lead or lead free pellets there using for the finale production claimed FPS?

The Crosman Discovery was a great surprise and so is Crosmans Benjamin Marauder.

I’m not much of a PCP or Co2 person, I like self-contained pumpers much better but there is lots to be said about the brutal power of a fully charged PCP..

 Just a note:

If the Benjamin Marauder is not out in May as planed, don’t be too surprised,
there is a lot of work to set up a production line and to maintain the quality you all expect.

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When the airgun dealer charges you extra money to test the airgun there selling to insure you don’t get a lemon you know the state of the airgun manufacturer has become less then par. and the quality of the dealer is in question.

 

 If the airgun dealer is not sure of the quality of the product there selling, it would seem its time to find a dealer that knows what there selling.

 

When did it become acceptable for a retailer to charge the buyer to test a gun they sell? Any reputable airgun dealer with quality service in mind will inspect each and every gun they sell before the sale, this not only insures the customer receives the best quality for the money but a customer in the future.

 

There is no way you or I should have to pay for extra testing by the dealer to insure we receive a safe & fully operational airgun, what in the hell happen customer service.

 

Airgun dealers are finding any and every way possible to suck/rip each and every of your/my hard earned dollar when selling there goods.

 

It’s my opinion there should be no guess work when selling a possibility dangerous item, it should be fully tested and functioning before it hits the box without an extra $10.00 dealer inspection charge.

 

If the gun you buy is not up to par send it back at dealer cost. If they don’t except returns on defective guns at there cost find another dealer.

 

There are dozens of dealers if not hundreds. Nothing special about a retailer, I guarantee you airgun dealers want your money more then you want there gun, get the best deal you can, big box stores for the cheaper guns there you will find the best deal and return policy.

 

Be leery of an airgun retailer who wants to charge you extra to make sure you get a good gun from there inventory.

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I have been asked several times, will shooting heavy pellets damage my spring powered airgun?

 

The answer is simple, No Way, What fool has thought this one up?

 

I have no idea where this nonsense began but it is just that, non-sense. 

 

Springs in springers will break, but the damage is not the cause of using heavy pellets, it’s poor material and workmanship in the gun and spring. 

 

 I have seen substandard mainsprings as well as springs that are too hard and brittle, these springs will have premature failures and best if avoided.

 

The main concern of damage caused by pellet weight or size would be pellets of the incorrect size (too small)

 

My second concern would be pellets that are too light, this allows the piston to slam forward to the end of it's stroke without an air buffer or (back pressure) to cushion the stop of the piston.

 

Heavier pellets will tend to increase the cushion giving a smoother landing of the piston resulting in less recoil and less jarring of the scope if you use one.

 

The best advise I can give, when it comes to potentially dangerous equipment is to buy the best you can afford and stay away from Chinese made goods including pellets.

 

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	This RWS 350 was a purchase from Cabelas Came in a shipping box stuffed on the ends with paper wrap gun arrived pristine condition. I like Cabelas they ship fast and returns if damaged in shipping is hassle free.
	This is the gun unpacked, you can see the need for better packing the barrel packing cap busted through. the 4 layers of cardboard and paper wrap save the crown.
As always with all the RWS I have ever bought the laser etching is clean and sharp
Nice wood from top to bottom
	The forearm is just as nice as the pistol grip, you would expect nothing less as its all done with computer guided laser
I sighted the gun in less then 10 minutes took it out  back and 20 or so yards I spotted dinner, normally this is not the case but I got lucky on the hunt it was fast and with the RWS 350 a good quality gun from the box no need to mess with the $125.00 so called airgun tune the china made guns require, this RWS gave me a straight shot to the head 20 or so yards away and dinner on the plate.

 

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Rear sight:

 

When using the rear sight you will move the rear sight in the direction you want the target impact to move

 

If the pellet needs to move up on your target you will move the rear sight up

If the pellet needs to go down on your target you will move the rear sight down

If you need your pellet to move to the right move your rear sight to the right

If you need your pellet to move to the left move your sight left

 

Front Sight:

 

When using the front sight you will move the front sight in the opposite direction you want the target impact to move.

 

If the pellet needs to move up on your target you will move the front sight down

If the pellet needs to go down on your target you will move your front sight up

If you need your pellet to move to the right move your front sight to the left

If you need your pellet to move to the left move your sight right

 

I like to start with the target at 10 feet or so that way I can hit the target without using the sights I like a guaranteed hit on the first shot,

 

Once I get sighted in I can double the distance to 20 feet not only will this give you a simple target it will also give you a basic idea with your gun, pellet and trajectory with the over and under compensation when shooting at a live target at variable distances.

 

Get to know your gun it will serve you well

 

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For the last year I have been reading the term Droop

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 This is so very incorrect!

A gun barrel is not a wet noodle or a limp stick it’s a short steel rod that has been bored and then rifled.

Its not drooping it is bent it is bent up it is bent down or it is bent to the right or left or a combination of two but it is not drooping.

If your barrel matches any of the barrel descriptions below you have a drooping barrel and it is time to replace it
A Loose Barrel
A Limp Barrel
A Relaxed Barrel
A Floppy Barrel
A Sagging Barrel

But if your barrel is bent to correct the pellet trajectory to center your gun is OK

I adjust my barrel to center at a distance of 10 yards by bending

OR

I adjust my barrel to center at a distance of 10 yards by drooping

Better yet I don’t like a drooping barrel so I droop it straight and then droop my scope mounts to recompense for the lack of barrel drooping

I am sorry but the term drooping is just plain dim-witted not to the ones that use it but to the ones that pushed this incorrect term of a bent barrel.

In the real world it is called barrel angle only because no one likes to have a bent barrel

Is your barrel bent?

No it’s angled to correct for pellet trajectory!!!

Whoo I’m vented

And pleased to know my barrel is not drooping but carefully angled to adjust for pellet trajectory


I should ad your airgun is a real gun and real terms should be used when referred to.

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